What Can I Run At The Same Time With 50 Amp Service For Rv

Topic: 50 amp service; squeamish to have or need to accept

Posted By: shadoow on eleven/xv/07 06:18pm DW & I are looking at 5th wheels & have seen a couple of trailers we similar enough to study closer. One has 30A service & the other 50A service. The one with 30A service has a 4000w generator. The ane with 50A service has a 5500 w generator.

Is the 30A service acceptable or will i routinely have problems with non enough power? We'll be getting a 15000 Btu Air-conditioning and 30,000 Btu heater. Not sure of the microwave rating.

I but want to make certain that whatever we become with won't have routine problems where we have to watch what nosotros run at any i fourth dimension. Like, take AC, but not accept anything else on but some lights, or running the microwave and AC at the aforementioned time, etc.

any insights would exist appreciated.

mike

Posted By: cc350 on 11/15/07 06:24pm Become with the 50amp, running the a/c a few lights kickoff the Microwave possibly a space heater and you'll be resetting breakers on a 30amp

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Posted By: Nascarcruzin on 11/15/07 06:29pm 30 amp is not plenty to run both a/c's much less a convection/microwave oven, as well!

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Posted By: Chuck&Gail on xi/15/07 06:35pm We have 30 amp. It is enough IF you but run one of the following at a time - microwave, single A/C, water heater on electrical, standalone electric heater, or any other large draw heating device. Note there are TTs with on board electric management systems that take care of the above problem for you, but they are pricey.

Nosotros do fine, but if all else was equal we would have gone 50 amp.

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Posted By: roadwarrior43 on 11/fifteen/07 06:41pm If you lot are going to use information technology in the heat of summer in TX, you will have to add a 2nd A/C unit. If you add that unit, you either must have 50 amp service, or hardwire a second circuit dedicated for the 2nd unit that will plug direct into the 20 amp circuit on the power pole. A 30 amp service will not handle it. Yous can always use an adapter to drop to 30 amp if you don't need to have the second unit of measurement, I would rather get the 5th bike with the fifty and never demand it than wishing I had information technology afterwards.

Myself, having l amp is not an option, nosotros accept a 36 ft 5th wheel we live in. With 2 13,500 BTU A/C units nosotros can keep it mid 70's in the hottest weather.

Oh, nosotros as well have heat pumps with both of them, along with heat strips. It is very economical to keep warm in the winter.

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Posted By: The Texan on 11/15/07 06:46pm I notice you lot're a fellow Texan, and so I offer one piece of advice, Two(two) A/Cs . The heat of the SW is more than than ane A/C tin can handle unless you're talking a 29' or smaller fifth wheel. If it's a larger 5th cycle, I would go with a 15K in the living expanse and a 13.5 or smaller in the bedchamber area and a 50A electrical service. You will never regret that decision after the 1st, mid summer trip.

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Posted By: dadwolf2 on 11/fifteen/07 x:09pm

TXiceman wrote:

From another Texan...If the trailer is over about 28'....2 A/C UNITS AND l amp power.....

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My trailer is 28'10" and I wish I had two A/C units and 50 amp power!

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Posted By: TXiceman on 11/15/07 08:12pm From another Texan...If the trailer is over about 28'....TWO A/C UNITS AND 50 amp power.....

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Posted Past: skipnchar on 11/15/07 06:59pm

cc350 wrote:

Go with the 50amp, running the a/c a few lights offset the Microwave maybe a infinite heater and you'll be resetting breakers on a 30amp

If y'all don't have two air conditioners y'all really don't demand 50 amp (unless of course you really Do run the Air Conditioner AND the space heater at the same fourth dimension. [emoticon]

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Posted Past: nancyebm on xi/15/07 07:48pm DITTO what the Texan said. We have a 15K, and a thirteen.5K down hither in Texas, and it is certainly worth the coin and 50 amp service to run both with. Nosotros also have the oestrus pump on the 15K unit. We used it last weekend while down at RV Ranch in Burleson, TX. Information technology certainly was nice to not accept to worry about how much propane we might use. It got downwards in the upper 40's, and it did accept the arctic off very well.

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Posted By: XianJaguar on 11/16/07 01:16am I'd HIGHLY suggest a 50 amp.

I currently full-time in a 30 amp. I didn't really understand the differences when I commencement bought (this is my first RV) and was looking more than at layouts and hot h2o heaters and ignoring amperage.
Well, long story short, I ended upward with a xxx amp, and hate it. I love everything else about my fiver, except the amperage.

I can't run the Air Conditioner and the Hair Dryer at the same time...it trips the breakers. So I have to turn off the Air-conditioning to blow dry my pilus! I tin't run the little electric heater, my computer and the microwave at the same time...it trips the billow. And so I accept turn off my niggling electrical heater if I desire to use the Microwave while I have the computer on. I have to be careful about which appliances I want to use...I can't two 'heavy hitters' at one time. Forget about ii Air conditioning's...I'd only like to not take to plough off the one Ac when I use the hair dryer!

If I had 50 amp service, all the above would be a moot point.

However, I'grand 'making it work', and it's non TOO much of a hassle.
Then...50 amp service...want or need? Well, for me, it'due south more than of a VERY BIG WANT. If yous don't heed monitering the usage of your electronic devices, or if you just apartment out don't use things similar Hair Dryers or two AC's, and so 50 amp isn't needed.

If you lot want to exist 'hassle-free' and not have to worry about power load, so yes, it's a Demand.

Posted By: Beach-House 4 on 11/xvi/07 02:39am The 50 amp is better.If y'all are hooked upwardly to a 50 amp service if you are hooked upward to 30 with a 50 amp service you lot can only get 30 amps which will not run 2 a/c units or i a/c and a microwave at the same time if the compressor kicks on at the aforementioned fourth dimension as the micro is turned on.And either way y'all become you lot will demand adapters for different electric setups.

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Posted By: thecampingman on 11/sixteen/07 05:37am With 30 amp service yous become ane 30 amp excursion.
With 50 amp service you get two fifty amp circuits.

If the fifty amp camper service were wired into a house it would exist called 100 amp service. And a lot of houses are wired with 100 amp service.

30 amps is well-nigh the maximum you could draw thru a 12 guage extension string.

When you opt for 50 amp service you go from living off of an extension cord to living with the service you'd expect in a house.

Campers aren't wired to use both legs of power at the same time for 240 volt service. So information technology's called the maximum you tin can draw at i time. Which is 50 amps. Information technology's just that you lot tin do that on 2 unlike circuits at one time.

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Posted By: shadoow on 11/16/07 07:12am thanx for all the replies and information. Equally i suspected, it sounds like i could brand do with 30A, but 50A would be much better, peculiarly down here in Tx. We alive well-nigh 50 mi. sw of Houston & would be camping ground in the hill country (for you texans) which doesn't hateful diddily as far as temperature/humidity go (for you not-texans).

The trailers we are looking at are very similar & unfortuneately, the ane with the 30A service is in the lead in our opinion. Does anyone have a link or information on converting 30A to 50A?? I've searched the forum and googled information technology, merely got express info. I'm not an electrician by trade, but have some training and experience working with electricity.

thanx over again for the replies and help

mike

Posted By: ol Bombero-JC on 11/16/07 11:21pm Would you purchase a new car or truck without A/C . . .
or power windows?
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Sure you can alive with the above . . . as well as 30amp,
but sure hurts "functionality" also as re-sale value.

Posted By: outdoorsman2007 on 11/16/07 01:44pm You need l amps if you have 2 A/C Units. Otherwise 30 amps will be fine.

Posted By: RetiredGuy on 11/xvi/07 02:24pm I have never heard anyone say, "I got l amp service simply I sure wish I had the thirty amp service instead." OTOH, I have heard quite a few say, "I got the 30 amp service but I sure wish I had the 50 Amp instead." While you MIGHT be happy with xxx amp service, why practise you call up many want 50 amp vice 30 amp? I know merely one drawback of 50 amp service--the ability string is heavier. I would non consider having thirty amp service for a 2nd. Even if you say you but desire one AC, look at how many have decided that one isn't enough and they add a second.

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Posted By: RedRam on 11/xvi/07 04:15pm In our Cougar we simply had i air conditioner which we ran all the time in the summer months here in Texas along with the microwave and a computer forth with a few what-nots and never tripped whatsoever breakers,we also had electric water heater merely nosotros usually ran it on propane.I know it gets hot here in Texas particularly in July and August but in time you might desire to add another ac unit in the bedroom and that is something you lot might want to consider.

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Posted By: wayne_tw on 11/16/07 04:28pm

skipnchar wrote:

cc350 wrote:

Go with the 50amp, running the a/c a few lights first the Microwave maybe a space heater and y'all'll be resetting breakers on a 30amp

[emoticon] If yous don't accept ii air conditioners y'all really don't need 50 amp (unless of form you really DO run the Air Conditioner AND the space heater at the same fourth dimension.

Not true. If you have a microwave, and electrical water heater, then running the A/C while these are also on will draw more than 30 amps. I found that while preparing dinner, I would frequently utilise the microwave and utilize hot water, thus causing the electric element to cycle on. So when the A/C comes on, BAM goes the xxx amp billow.

Posted Past: 22geno on 11/16/07 06:17pm fifty amp even if information technology is over kill cause you may add together more subsequently. Only problem with fifty amp is the string is heavy an bulky.
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Posted By: Traveling Texans on 11/xvi/07 07:14pm Most trailers today are manufactured with a 30 amp service if they take one AC and fifty amp if they have ii. Each service is adequate for the system information technology is designed for and will run all the appliances in your RV, simply not all of the high amp appliances at one time. If you wanted an boosted xx amp circuit yous could add together an outlet with an extension string and plug it into the 20 amp outlet on the power pedistal which is normally side by side to the xxx amp outlet. This is what i did on my trailer.

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Posted By: bearsnob on 11/17/07 12:01am

Traveling Texans wrote:

If y'all wanted an additional 20 amp circuit y'all could add an outlet with an extension cord and plug information technology into the 20 amp outlet on the power pedistal which is unremarkably next to the xxx amp outlet. This is what i did on my trailer.

We did the aforementioned with our last 5er. Two ACs wasn't the outcome considering of where we live and camp. Only during cold weather we'd run two infinite heaters and needed that additional circuit. If your second AC is 13.5K, you can run that off of a xx amp circuit. Go along in mind, even so, that even if you add a twenty amp excursion, that isn't fifty-fifty shut to having a l amp rig. I agree with everyone else, all things being equal, go with the fifty amp rig. But since all things don't seem to be equal in the two rigs you lot are considering, adding an additional 20 amp circuit volition probably get you lot by (and it will be a lot cheaper than converting to 50 amp).

As for upgrading the rig to 50 amp service, I've not heard of it beingness done, but how hard could information technology be? In one case you go to the breaker box, from the circuit breakers on, everything is the same equally far every bit I know. So, and I could hands be wrong hither, you lot need a new outside receptacle, a new billow box, the wiring between the two, and a l amp shore cord. Could information technology really exist that like shooting fish in a barrel?

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Posted By: familyof3 on 11/17/07 08:28am

bearsnob wrote:

Traveling Texans wrote:

If you wanted an boosted xx amp circuit you could add together an outlet with an extension cord and plug information technology into the 20 amp outlet on the power pedistal which is ordinarily next to the thirty amp outlet. This is what i did on my trailer.

We did the same with our last 5er. Two ACs wasn't the outcome because of where nosotros live and military camp. But during cold weather nosotros'd run 2 space heaters and needed that additional circuit. If your second Air conditioning is thirteen.5K, you can run that off of a 20 amp excursion. Continue in mind, even so, that even if y'all add together a twenty amp circuit, that isn't even close to having a l amp rig. I agree with everyone else, all things being equal, get with the 50 amp rig. But since all things don't seem to exist equal in the 2 rigs you are considering, adding an boosted xx amp circuit will probably get you by (and it will be a lot cheaper than converting to 50 amp).

Every bit for upgrading the rig to fifty amp service, I've not heard of it being done, but how hard could it be? Once you go to the breaker box, from the circuit breakers on, everything is the same as far as I know.

So, and I could easily exist incorrect here, you need a new outside receptacle, a new billow box, the wiring betwixt the 2, and a 50 amp shore cord. Could it really exist that easy?

Yes it can exist that easy. A picayune money and LABOR and it is washed, you have 50 amp service,

Posted By: oh male child on 11/eighteen/07 10:46am Go l..as stated meliorate to have information technology and not use it. good for resale. we visit Tx Oct/Apr from the snowy north. Only take one A/C but there are days we wish we had two A/C. I accept fifty amp in my trailer simply use a pigtail 50/30 amp nearly times every bit I hate the heavy power cord. Don't fifty-fifty bring information technology south with me anymore.
having no experience with summer in Tx but just seeing the temps I'd want 2 A/C'south.

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Posted By: bearsnob on 11/xviii/07 02:59pm Then, I guess if I were the OP, I'd negotiate the cost down on the xxx amp rig every bit far as possible and then see if I could get them to lower the cost a little more to pay for the conversion to fifty amp. I'll bet they'd go for it. Nothing like having your cake and eating information technology as well. [emoticon]

Posted Past: mobilesuite on xi/19/07 12:07am Practice y'all know why y'all buy insurance to protect your valuables? It is b/c you lot are preparing for the what if. A camper is non a cheap investment. If yous go with the 30 amp, are y'all going to take a few trips, realize that you really do use it for more than you would a tent and regret not getting the l amp? We bought a moblie suite and it is 50 amp..(38 ft) and have had electrical problems with it. (They screwed screws through the wires when building information technology.) And so what I am getting at is I had to make certain that I remembered to turn off our electrical heater before I could even use the microwave until we could go it in to go fixed. That is what information technology would exist similar on a 30 amp and we are afterall human and so y'all would be tripping a lot of breakers often if y'all forgot. That leads to frustration...hence, yous may regret not spending that niggling bit more for condolement. Get what yous remember you may demand but at least consider my experience. If I wanted to live primitively I would accept bought a 2 room tent! [emoticon]